May 26th, 2010
One of the great advantages of having membership within the Fedora Project (including all the little subgroups like ambassadors) centralized in FAS is that you can write a simple script to get some meaningful numbers.
We were discussing ambassador mentoring at FAD NA 2010 and one of the many proposals tossed back and forth was to require that ambassadors are within the project for a period of time before they apply to be an ambassador. David Nalley asked the group: “How long do people wait now before they join the ambassadors group in FAS?” Three seconds later he turned to me and asked me to write a script to do that. Here it is.
This script downloads a bunch of group data from FAS (which takes a little while because it needs to grab cla_done), finds users who have signed the CLA (approved in cla_done), and who have applied to be an ambassador but have not yet been approved. It then determines the amount of time the user spent between signing the CLA and applying to be an ambassador in FAS (what we’ll call the “delta”). It prints two lines: the first is a sorted Python list of the delta, converted to seconds; the second is the number of users the list describes (a count of the elements in the list).
(It should be noted that there is a cutoff for the usability of time-based data in FAS. For some reason or another—whether it was beacuse FAS1 didn’t track times, or because the upgrade to FAS2 overwrote the times—timestamps for group joins and approvals are all horribly wrong before March 12, 2008 at 02:06 UTC. See line 11 in the script.)
As of the FAD, here’s the data it produced (with line breaks added):
[65, 71, 90, 100, 117, 157, 177, 359, 367, 390, 432, 455, 518, 1032, 4174, 4327,
10162, 18168, 21257, 66571, 120267, 122254, 230746, 451587, 904754, 1293886,
1378508, 2001388, 2619665, 3862083, 6272559, 10794330, 15915004, 19977760,
36867582, 39432762]
36
Some conclusions we can make based on this data:
- The average delta was 1544 seconds, which is about 26 minutes.
- 20 of the 36 users (55.6%) had a delta of less than a day (86400 seconds). 7 of the 36 users (19.4%) had a delta of less than 5 minutes (300 seconds).
- The maximum delta was 456.4 days (about 15 months).
If you look to the comment on line 19 of the script, it’s a simple one-line change to get data for those who already have become ambassadors as well. Here’s the data for that, as of now(ish), with line breaks added:
[-7046682, -2244969, -2169415, -2105694, -1210664, -946193, -171773, -132781,
-105235, -88070, -11491, -2193, -380, -70, -31, -30, -13, 18, 19, 22, 26, 26,
26, 33, 33, 33, 36, 39, 40, 41, 43, 46, 47, 47, 47, 57, 59, 60, 61, 62, 62, 66,
66, 66, 67, 68, 69, 71, 71, 75, 76, 76, 77, 80, 85, 90, 90, 90, 92, 93, 95, 96,
98, 104, 105, 106, 109, 109, 109, 110, 111, 118, 119, 119, 120, 120, 127, 128,
131, 134, 135, 137, 139, 143, 145, 145, 146, 150, 150, 152, 155, 156, 158, 159,
168, 169, 176, 183, 185, 189, 191, 194, 194, 196, 198, 199, 205, 210, 211, 214,
217, 222, 222, 225, 237, 240, 243, 245, 252, 256, 258, 262, 264, 270, 272, 272,
278, 283, 294, 294, 295, 296, 297, 304, 306, 319, 321, 321, 323, 328, 335, 343,
346, 353, 361, 374, 378, 400, 400, 402, 412, 421, 441, 450, 452, 452, 455, 478,
484, 491, 520, 531, 575, 589, 607, 607, 621, 648, 658, 663, 705, 720, 722, 724,
732, 733, 738, 749, 753, 814, 827, 832, 874, 880, 929, 950, 956, 1012, 1014,
1041, 1046, 1131, 1286, 1381, 1408, 1430, 1559, 1577, 1821, 1845, 1887, 1906,
1971, 2028, 2165, 2195, 2424, 2479, 2640, 2901, 2934, 3094, 3339, 3354, 3364,
3413, 3414, 3711, 4874, 5386, 5426, 5577, 6329, 7416, 8916, 11001, 18324, 18575,
19330, 19936, 21462, 24887, 27708, 28870, 31331, 37117, 37872, 43673, 45269,
45565, 48128, 49488, 63696, 66359, 68765, 69655, 69813, 70958, 73441, 75468,
76693, 78022, 80469, 81074, 83926, 84313, 85884, 94732, 97918, 109199, 132682,
153970, 159001, 159096, 166200, 167190, 172526, 203033, 209366, 232599, 254839,
298215, 335812, 338047, 346164, 347030, 350391, 373753, 390049, 402758, 419056,
419722, 426483, 473510, 516436, 573911, 602051, 677595, 692417, 760878, 763579,
765369, 856220, 857455, 988386, 988834, 1000077, 1100141, 1208640, 1209160,
1296560, 1298298, 1391236, 1399265, 1409442, 1462069, 1468372, 1475776, 1549503,
1551292, 1556641, 1570053, 1644704, 1724047, 1727078, 1736449, 1819393, 1852417,
1883617, 1908922, 1969031, 1989497, 2075824, 2122750, 2139385, 2145740, 2186876,
2267192, 2292659, 2410660, 2430179, 2503012, 2594221, 2644249, 2699353, 2711578,
2826634, 2905727, 2917899, 2926825, 2928264, 3087834, 3130616, 3133132, 3772561,
4058559, 4446452, 4477283, 4590461, 4666894, 4771861, 4809502, 4868847, 5005004,
5058314, 5092264, 5183777, 5196236, 5411273, 5593249, 5628497, 5873109, 5947922,
6105292, 6240295, 6368175, 6488855, 7137656, 7348233, 7412019, 7524910, 7695694,
7712467, 7743736, 7950337, 8184019, 8226472, 8898541, 9143874, 9157720, 9354098,
9481789, 9552013, 9850428, 10295579, 10468848, 11302343, 11365382, 11483738,
11680912, 12374970, 12556286, 12776962, 12916884, 14004298, 14098912, 14506093,
14567374, 14836520, 15074649, 15868294, 16877210, 16920294, 17261366, 17462813,
17654050, 18496770, 18578171, 19207671, 19240507, 20335751, 20650780, 21510299,
21576474, 22797578, 25967324, 26705809, 26819684, 27315401, 27475767, 27628951,
28697835, 29272369, 29484943, 30322585, 30675304, 31282206, 31359463, 35558509,
36867582, 37016239, 37389204, 40520264, 43289246, 45256091, 45268939, 49846083,
56418326]
438
The first thing I noticed was that there were negative numbers. (lolwut?) These were probably before FAS had the ability to require that you were in cla_done before you joined ambassadors.
The main reason I’m posting about this is because I want to show that it’s really easy to pull group information from FAS and start messing with numbers. Take a look at pydoc fedora.client.fas2 and some other modules inside python-fedora. Looking at numbers can help you figure out what you can do within Fedora to help the project move along. (As for the requiring a certain amount of time as a contributor before becoming an ambassador proposal, I’m not sure where that ended up. I think we determined it was unneeded, but I can’t quite remember.)
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